Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Thank you, gentlemen, for your presentations. The one thing you have in common, even though you differ on the issues, is that you're very passionate. We welcome that and thank you for it.
Mr. Butler already corrected Mr. Kavanagh on the Abitibi thing, so I won't do that, but I will make a comment on the whole secretive nature of the TPP and other trade agreements. There was the ability to sign a non-disclosure, and hundreds of individuals and businesses took advantage of that. They were briefed on the day-by-day, issue-by-issue basis that pertained to them. That was available to people. No governments negotiate through public, through media, or whatever. We're seeing that right now with health care. We're seeing it with Petronas moving forward with the LNG. It's not done in the public purview because it just can't be. So there was the ability to sign those non-disclosures and move forward.
I want to move on to you, Mr. Sullivan and Mr. Butler. Thank you for your presentations. I understand that you're coming at it from the tariff only, but there is certainly overview on labour standards and environmental standards that will pertain to you as you go into foreign countries and here. It really levels the playing field on a lot of the ancillary parts to a trade agreement.
Would you be interested in making investments, to move forward into the world economy, if they weren't secured?