Thank you, Ms. Ramsey.
First, before I answer her question I want to say to my panellists here that I love blueberries, but I also like fair and progressive trade that works for everybody in the country.
When you have investor state provisions, it behooves me to ask why any government would take that responsibility and put it to a third person, so to speak, because it makes it more difficult. Also, as we all know, it opens up this government and this country to be sued. You need look no further than NAFTA—I even hate to use that terminology—and the impacts that has had.
When you're talking about the environment and you're talking about what the impacts of the ISDS would have, you have to look no further than.... As Ms. Payne says, we're already trading with 97% of these countries. If you look at climate change around the world, we've got a lot of work to do. If Canada wants to be a progressive nation around climate change, and I think this government has opened up and said that, then we need to be able to do that in a progressive way, without the risk of having other countries block that progress.
I mean when you're talking climate change, I think it benefits everybody that we have the discussion, but for something to end up at the ISDS in an arbitral place—