Okay.
Another thing that's come up is that, I believe, we're largely tariff-free with Australia already. I wonder if you could speak to the tariff reductions that you're looking to see in terms of Australian exports coming to Canada, but also the non-tariff barriers. What's been highlighted at our committee is the fact that non-tariff barriers are more difficult to overcome than the actual percentages that exist in tariff format.
I wonder if you could speak to us about how that's been discussed in Australia as well.