—but in the treaties for many years now—certainly it's been Canada's model under NAFTA, and in many other treaties—it's not a secret or confidential process. It's quite to the contrary. It's very transparent. As an example, you can go on the international trade website, and you can see all the proceedings. You can often participate in hearings.
As Pierre Marc Johnson said, there is a political voice against companies having claims against states. People say that these are terrible tribunals and that they're secret. Well, they're not—