—on circumvention? Obviously that also applies to dairy. This duty deferral program has been detrimental for all supply management commodities. In dairy it's been causing major problems because if chicken after four years is not nice, I can tell you it's the same thing for dairy products. This is not helping. This has to go. This is clear-cut for everybody in the agriculture business.
What's important for this committee—because you said there's no link with the TPP—is that creative circumvention of imports is part of this role, as well as that of your committee. I can tell you there are a lot of creative people out there. We faced the pizza kit crisis we had, and the butteroil-sugar blend. They do the same thing. Put a little sugar in cream and it's not cream anymore. There are all kinds of ways. When we talk about granting access it's important you keep in mind that border control is important. People will find any way to play with them and that is detrimental to us. Contrary to a lot of industries, we do control our production to make sure we respect the demand. If we can't read the demand then obviously that's not happening. I think this is part of the role of the committee.
To answer your question on the quota values, we believe with the information we have that this part of the compensation package is probably not the one that will be helping the farmers directly. We would rather see that money devoted to the revenue loss. According to our calculations, and we need to remind you, it's not only the dairy package. It's all supply management packages. The $4.2 billion is not for dairy. It's for the five commodities. In our case it includes CETA and TPP, and it lasts for 10 years for five commodities. The numbers look big, but I can tell you that the loss of revenues are big.