I have to take just a minute, because I've been working closely with Minister Freeland, and I'm sure, MP Ramsey, we'll be working closely with Minister Champagne as well. I'd said this to you earlier, but let me state for the record that it's really nice to see that people are fighting for the people who we need to fight for. I appreciate your constructive feedback and I appreciate your being a part of the solution.
When it comes to the consultations and communications we've had with SMEs, and I'm talking about the people who are in the pipeline, and approaching new people, they want conditions for success. They want programs and services not to be shelved, and for government to say these exist. They want to be successful in their applications so they can have the outcomes we need them to have.
The small business tax rate does not give the return we believe it does. It's a great sound bite, it's a great headline, but at the end of the day, when you talk about dollars and cents, it does not achieve it.