Absolutely. I briefly touched upon the supply chain that our colleagues have mentioned as well. One interesting thing about Hamilton steel is that it's not just Dofasco and Stelco—those are the household names—but it's companies that have been in business for over 100 years, and they're making the pipes and the value-added products. I think when steel is dumped into the market, a lot of them aren't at a scale where they can really pursue large-scale actions with CITT as some of the multinationals are able to. I think for them what is really necessary is for a system to be there automatically. It's not going to be a place where they can take unilateral action.
The other challenge is that, to their mind, the future of steel is going to be either a niche industry, in which they're able to specialize using R and D and capital investment, or them being bought up by a larger conglomerate that will help them evolve. Those are the only two pathways they see. The third pathway for them is something I don't think is amenable to the government at the provincial-federal level, and that is for the government to get out of their way. They're very afraid of the signals out of the U.S. in terms of environmental protections, trade remedies, Buy America, and America First. They're not able to compete at that level.