We want to address carbon. We will address carbon, but make no mistake, it will impact competitiveness. If that's the case, what are we doing to maintain the competitive position while we're focused on a carbon policy?
The notion that departments of environment nationally and provincially can somehow re-engineer our economy solo is hard to believe. If it is indeed a cross-cutting horizontal policy issue, then it will require a whole-of-government approach, and we're not seeing that.