I think it's both. I think people don't identify the degree to which somebody's consumer goods are much less expensive, and that there's greater competition in the marketplace in a way that brings more choice as well as lower costs. That's missing.
It's easy to say, in those narrow specific places where there have been many factory job losses, that trade is to blame. Sometimes trade is to blame, but there's research by Ball State University which says that 88% of manufacturing job losses are due to automation and not due to trade. It would be to everyone's benefit, I think, if we had a clearer-eyed assessment. Those are challenges. They need solutions, but you need to understand the problem so you can get the right solution.