Maybe I could start by tackling the second question on the value-added. We're doing as much value-added as anybody else is trying to do with what you can do with lumber. When you ask me about China, unfortunately China is a long way from where we are. To get there you have climb over British Columbia, because they're a lot closer than we are. They have an easier way to ship their wood to China than we would have. We do ship wood to China from New Brunswick. It's highly specialized wood. It's hardwoods and things like that, but it's more difficult because of our location.
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