To add to that, the relationship has definitely deepened over the last number of years. Shannon mentioned the referral program. In the last three years, about 1,200 Canadian companies were referred between the two organizations at the right point in time, and that's important. There's a business horizon there, an early-stage need for working capital domestically to grow the business. Pre-exporting squarely falls to BDC, and then once they're ready to go international, there's a good hand-off to EDC.
There are a number of other programs we also collaborate on, including the accelerated growth service, which is very much targeted to the small and medium-sized exporter or new business. It's actually a broad, whole-of-government approach in which we're just two of the key players.