Thank you, Mr. Chair. You're doing a great job of chairing this meeting. It's your first time since we've been here, so that's great. I heard great things about you. It's nice to see them come to fruition here.
Thank you for being with us again, Mr. Verheul. It's very much appreciated, as always. It's always great when we can tap into your expertise and your experience, and it does help us to do our job as a committee. I think it helps us as parliamentarians. It's great that Canadians get some insight into what's going on, because there are very few Canadians, in my assessment, who aren't impacted by NAFTA in one regard or another. This is important work that we're doing. Not to put more pressure on you than you already have, but it's great that we get to discuss this situation in an open forum such as this.
I want to hit on a couple of issues that have already been touched upon, but maybe we can dig a little bit deeper. I'm going to start with the ISDS, the dispute mechanism.
My friend Ms. Ramsey, from the NDP, mentioned a little bit about chapter 11. I want to focus on chapter 19, because it's almost the mirror image. In my understanding, or at least it's the impression or the perception of it, is that in the U.S., they want chapter 19 to be gone. My understanding is also that we've rejected that proposal. Is there a counter-proposal? Is there a dispute mechanism that will satisfy all three parties that is somewhere in between what might exist now and perhaps what we see in CETA and other, more progressive, trade deals?