Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
As Ms. Ludwig and Mr. Masse mentioned, we were in the States last week. One of the themes we heard over and over again was basically “do no harm”. We heard that over and over again from the auto sector and the agrifood sector, but we also heard it from security.
There's an issue I'm trying to get my head around, and maybe you can help me out with it. When you talk to the Americans about security versus trade, it seems their perspective is they put security first, then trade. There seems to be a perception that Canada puts trade first, and then security.
When you're looking at NAFTA and at North America, with NAFTA we have better cybersecurity, better food security, better energy security, and better defence security for North America. I'm trying to think, what's in North America's...? What's in the best interest of the U.S., Canada, and Mexico?
I had a gentleman who is involved in the security sector. He said that theoretically you could have less trade with the U.S., and then Canada would have to look to other markets. I know the PM is in China now, so taking that example, if you have a weakness of Canadian enterprises, they are more susceptible to a takeover. That may be a cause for concern with state-owned Chinese enterprises. I asked a couple of the congressmen whether it was in their best interest to have state-owned Chinese enterprises on their northern border, as a hypothetical situation, and I don't think they had even thought about security.
My question to you—and again it's an opinion question—is this: is it in the United States' best interest, from a security perspective, to withdraw from NAFTA? Maybe you could thematically talk about cybersecurity, food, energy, and defence. Where's the win?