I know you're very good at knowing how to make a point of order, Mr. Carrie.
I really have to get on to Mr. Dhaliwal and our other members before the minister has to leave. I'm sorry. I think it's important that we make sure other members get their four minutes.
You could have moved it right at the beginning, Mr. Carrie. That is the point I'm trying to make.
Mr. Hoback.