Evidence of meeting #18 for International Trade in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Susan Yurkovich  President and Chief Executive Officer, BC Council of Forest Industries, BC Lumber Trade Council
Andre Harpe  Chair, Grain Growers of Canada
Jesse Whattam  Coordinator, Trade Justice Network
Claude Vaillancourt  Member, Réseau québécois sur l'intégration continentale
Erin Gowriluk  Executive Director, Grain Growers of Canada
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Christine Lafrance

12:50 p.m.

Conservative

Tracy Gray Conservative Kelowna—Lake Country, BC

Yes, Madam Chair. Thank you.

12:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Okay.

(Motion negatived: nays 6; yeas 5)

Thank you very much, Madam Clerk.

Mr. Sheehan is first, and then Mr. MacGregor.

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

Terry Sheehan Liberal Sault Ste. Marie, ON

Thank you very much.

You had mentioned entertaining the various notices of motions that have been placed on the table. I think, with only three minutes left, I would probably look to move my motion on Friday, just to have the opportunity for people to discuss said motion, if warranted. Obviously, if people wanted to support it right now, I would entertain that, but I just was prepared for a notice of motion.

Chair, you did mention something about entertaining voting on it now, but again, from way back in my city council days, I always like to do a notice of motion just to give people the time to read it. It's been circulated in both official languages, too. Again, it's an important motion around green tech. It's coast to coast. Every province has green tech opportunities for scale-up. That's why I introduced it.

I will leave that with the committee, but I just wanted to note that it's such an important discussion I wanted to make sure we had the appropriate time set aside to answer questions. I would not want it to be defeated simply because it was rushed. That's all.

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

Sukh Dhaliwal Liberal Surrey—Newton, BC

No. We fully support it, Terry.

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

Terry Sheehan Liberal Sault Ste. Marie, ON

Thank you.

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Is the committee of the desire to vote on Mr. Sheehan's motion today or to hold it off for another day? I have two yeses. Are there any objections to Mr. Sheehan's motion?

We have Mr. MacGregor and then Mr. Lobb.

Mr. MacGregor.

12:55 p.m.

NDP

Alistair MacGregor NDP Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC

I'm sorry. Where are we at, Madam Chair? Are we still on Mr. Sheehan's motion?

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Yes.

12:55 p.m.

NDP

Alistair MacGregor NDP Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC

Okay. I will defer until after this business is concluded.

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Mr. Lobb, are you speaking to Mr. Sheehan's motion?

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

Ben Lobb Conservative Huron—Bruce, ON

Yes.

On Mr. Sheehan's motion, I look at it and I understand where Mr. Sheehan is coming from, but I do know that it's specific in some ways around talking about wind, solar and other things like that. Take, for example, nuclear, which I would consider green. It's not listed there. Some of the stuff in and around the oil and gas sector that would be considered green technology is not listed there.

If we look at this at another meeting in terms of business, is this something that we can make more general instead of making it more specific? For my own two cents, I would want to throw in a friendly amendment in and around nuclear CANDU technology and all the other supporting services that go along with it.

I don't want to ruin Mr. Sheehan's motion if he wanted to keep it that way, but it's just something to have him think about, maybe, over the next couple of days.

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Mr. Sheehan, are you all right with holding your motion down?

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

Terry Sheehan Liberal Sault Ste. Marie, ON

Yes, I would be, because Mr. Lobb brought up very salient points. Those two other industries unto themselves are extremely important, important to me and important to Canadians.

In just the spirit of this motion, I would think that those two industries almost unto themselves warrant their own particular studies. I mean, we have Tenaris Tubes here in the Soo. I'm not going to go down the proverbial rabbit hole, but yes, those are industries that definitely are important to Canadians. I would think they almost deserve a study unto themselves.

I take that under advisement. I think we probably should come back to my resolution with these thoughts in our heads.

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Okay. I'm just keeping my eye on the clock here. At the moment, we have WTO and ISDS. That's what's ahead of us in the immediate future.

I have Mr. MacGregor and then Mr. Hoback.

Mr. MacGregor, the floor is yours.

1 p.m.

NDP

Alistair MacGregor NDP Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC

Has Mr. Sheehan ceded the floor on his motion?

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Yes. We will not be voting on that today.

1 p.m.

NDP

Alistair MacGregor NDP Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC

I wanted to know, Madam Chair, from the clerk.... If I wanted to have a vote on the motion I talked about earlier, could I push for that right now if I so wished? There have been talks with the Bloc and with the Conservatives. The motion has been circulated. I could read it into the record one more time.

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

It would have to be the original motion. I believe it has to be the original motion that Mr. Blaikie moved in the fall, without—

1 p.m.

NDP

Alistair MacGregor NDP Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC

Yes, but if I wanted to push for the motion as amended for a vote right now, could I do so?

1 p.m.

Liberal

Rachel Bendayan Liberal Outremont, QC

Madam Chair, just in case this assists your reflections, I do have another engagement at one o'clock. This is the end of our committee time. Of course, if you decide to go on without me, I will find a substitute.

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Well, it is one o'clock, and I don't believe there's an urgency. When things get changed, Mr. MacGregor, for the timelines to continue on.... Certainly, Mr. Blaikie can speak to this on Friday, since the meeting time has run out at this particular point.

1 p.m.

NDP

Alistair MacGregor NDP Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC

All right. Recognizing the time, I'll respect everyone's commitments and ask Mr. Blaikie to move it next time.

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Thank you very much, Mr. MacGregor.

Thank you very much to the committee for your continued dedication and help. It was great seeing you. We will see you later on in the week.

The meeting is adjourned.