The last agreement was 2006 to 2015, with a one-year standstill period. We have, of course, been back into paying duties, which were put on us in 2017.
It adds costs, but mostly it creates volatility and uncertainty. I think that's not good. After this year, we know what it's like to live with uncertainty. For our sector, this ongoing battle on the trade front takes up a lot of time, energy and resources. Most frustratingly, it doesn't allow us to deploy those resources in a different way.
It has real impacts when we have.... We're in good markets now, but when we were in bad markets, a lot of people were out of work very quickly. Look at 2019. It was a devastating year. Each person who loses a job in a mill.... These are good, family-supporting jobs. They are jobs that build communities. When we have that kind of volatility and loss, it can have a huge impact on workers and communities.
We would like to get resolution on this, particularly given that we've always had a North American market for lumber. They need our lumber. It's a great building material for people who are looking to make good choices for the planet. We would just really like to have this resolved once and for all.