Mr. Hoback, that's a totally fair question, an important question.
I want to support entrepreneurial Canadians doing business abroad. I take my hat off to them. I'm an academic. In the private sector, “they expect results,” as they say in Ghostbusters. I have the utmost respect for them.
I just want to tell you that, honestly, ISDS isn't going to help because they can't afford the litigation. You're dealing with a country like, let's say, Russia or China. Even if you win an ISDS millions or tens of millions in litigation fees later, do you think the country is going to pay?
Russians, you know, they might not pay. Then what do you do? Then you have to chase Russian assets in countries all over the world, waving around an arbitration award and an investment treaty. It's great for the lawyers. It's great for the arbitrators. I'm just telling you straight up that unless you're talking about hundreds of millions in assets, the benefits to Canadian investors' being protected abroad.... You're just going to have to look elsewhere for your protection.