I think if we didn't have investor-state dispute settlements, then Canadian companies would have to figure out where to go to get a remedy.
As I said before, they're going to either not invest—so we will lose out on the returns that come to us through taxation—or pay for it in the form of insurance. Thirdly, they're going to ask you as a government to make the decision for them, and every time you sit down with representatives of their government.... There may be cases, particularly in Africa, where our foreign policy demands that we have a good relationship with a country that has a huge mining industry. But if every time that we sit down with that country, the top of the agenda is that investment dispute, we won't be able to pursue some of the foreign policy objectives we have on a bilateral basis with that country, and, let's be frank, on a multilateral basis in larger international institutions. I think it hurts us.