With regard to your question about five years, pre-COVID is what we used to know as our normal. What we're living now is our new normal. I don't think we're going to get to pre-COVID normal for at least five years. I think there's going to be a trajectory and an evolution.
A lot of that depends on us. It depends on what we do as a country. I'm saying that in both the public sector and in the private sector, everybody has to work together in managing our country to get as close to the old normal as possible, but it's not going to go back to the old normal for at least five years, for many reasons. There are going to be trading blocs and so on and so forth—