Yes, I think it's twofold. One would be that I think there is extra financing available, but ultimately they are a bank. I think, moving forward, what would be a great discourse is the flexibility that BDC and EDC should offer that other traditional commercial banks wouldn't. I think that's one way.
Second is venture capital. They are both still looking at a small start-up style seed funding. I think there is a little bit of hesitation in terms of betting on, let's say, Canadian companies that are x percentage and above, so I think they should be bold. They should bet on our companies that are going to hit $100 million.