Yes, there are ongoing discussions. I would say, right now at the WTO, we are discussing the next ministerial conference, which will start at the end of November. We're in active discussions about what the things are that need to be done in the lead-up to the ministerial conference and the outputs from the ministerial conference.
The DG and the General Council chair have been very clear. It's impossible to imagine that we would go into a ministerial conference without doing something that would address the pandemic.
As I mentioned earlier, the Ottawa Group has proposals on trying to make sure there's access to PPE, access to therapeutics and increasing vaccine production, and there is growing support for this proposal. You will see very shortly that the EU is engaging in this discussion as an Ottawa Group member, but it also has some other ideas.
The director-general herself is engaging in something called the third way, which is trying to marry manufacturing capacity, IP and the industry to increase vaccine production. There are a number of proposals out there with growing support. It's difficult to know exactly what form this will take by the time we get to MC12, but there is growing support, and there is a recognition that something must be done at the WTO. What we're talking about now is what things could be done.