The production numbers speak for themselves in that we've seen declines across the board. I think the big challenge is permitting. We hear the various estimates and about the time it takes to get a permit in the mining sector. You're talking about anywhere from 12 to 18 years. That's a challenge.
The government's EV sales mandate says to be 100% electric by 2035. If it takes 12 years to get a permit for a mine, we have a problem.