I really stand by my previous testimony that the U.S. has taken a very strong carrots approach. The more they build up their carrots—their buffet of carrots, as I was calling it earlier today—the more challenging it will be to compete and the more unlevel our playing field will be.
Canadian steel producers have the talent. We have the equipment. We have the modernized facilities, if you will. We have the transportation networks. We have the proximity to the market as well, in both Canada and the United States. However, we do not benefit from the scale of the carrots that exist in the United States.
Furthermore, as per my previous testimony, we have not just carrots here in Canada; we have carrots and sticks. To elaborate further, the carrot that we were discussing was the IRA, but I want to emphasize that there are also additional things in the United States, such as the trade policy I was describing. We have to get the playing field as close to level as possible between Canada and the United States. That means aligning on trade policy. That means aligning as much as possible on carbon policy. This is what it's going to take.