It's about authenticity. If you're going to sell a product that's going to be clean, that is going to have no tail-pipe emissions, that is going to help you achieve your green standards—whether those are EV mandates or others—then you have a responsibility to look at all of your supplies and all the raw materials. Where are they made? How are they made?
In our conversations with American officials, a lot of where they're going on a regulatory front involves asking what the embedded carbon level is in the materials, from steel to the parts that are made out of steel, to the cars that they go in. They get it and I think that we get it here, too.
That's also one way in which China is getting an unfair advantage here. There was 218 gigawatts of new coal-fired power approved in China over the last 18 months to sell us the steel that wraps the batteries that go into the clean cars that come to us from forced and otherwise underpaid labour to meet our objectives.