Thank you, Madam Chair.
I'd like to take this opportunity to thank the witnesses for being with us this afternoon to answer our questions.
I have some concerns. We're getting close to the blackout period, which is October 4. Once we're there, this notion called the “big bang” is in effect.
I want to go to Ms. Upton, if I could, right away.
Ms. Upton, in our previous hearing, we had Mr. Gallivan from the CBSA. I mean, he wouldn't come right out and describe—I'd call it verbal gymnastics—the whole question of the ownership of the CARM, so does Deloitte own CARM, the portal, yes or no?