You know how much I respect and like you. I think our decarbonization measure is actually doing the opposite. It's why we've been able to attract investments from Volkswagen, Honda and the like. In Honda's case, we are talking about the biggest investment in the company's 75‑year history, and it is choosing to make that investment in Canada. It also creates jobs for the women and men in your region who work in aluminum or steel and those who work for auto industry partners.
Had we not pursued decarbonization, had we not shown leadership in the area, our industry would've paid the price, Mr. Martel. We should be leaders, as far as I'm concerned.