One of the most important things is to ensure that we don't end up stigmatizing all Chinese people because of the behaviour of the Chinese state. That would be a mistake, and we don't want to lurch into McCarthyism around this.
However, it is true that through the United Front Work Department and through many other overseas Chinese organizations, there is penetration and infiltration of many layers of our economies, and that includes the Canadian economy. It has been well demonstrated by your inquiry into interference. Very unfortunately, I think we are at a stage now where we have to take our due diligence extremely seriously and where we would recommend that it is not safe, sadly, to allow certain nationals to participate in sensitive research projects.