If I had to project this over the last decade, I think there have probably been about 40,000 jobs lost—and I hope I got that number right—for a variety of reasons.
As far as forestry is concerned, I think forestry is Canada's best-kept secret in terms of helping address climate change and doing so in a proactive way to provide products. I think there is a real opportunity with wood products to combat climate change and meet our climate needs.