I wish I had a magic wand to answer your question and say that it could be a couple of years, but certainly not. I think the whole world is working on that.
In particular, I work with a lot of French companies that are investing very heavily in this energy transition. For example, Air Liquide is a large French organization looking at hydrogen as a source of energy. In fact, Canada is host to the largest carbon capture hydrogen plant when it comes to Air Liquide.
These investments—capital expenditure by large organizations—coupled with the desire from countries like Canada, are going to make this happen. We're talking decades in terms of when everybody can truly transition into energy independence. Specifically, this needs to happen with urgency, and the Canadian government really needs to pay attention to this.
There are other governments, like the French, who are ready to participate and ready to partner so we can address this energy transition and accelerate the time frame.