Evidence of meeting #133 for International Trade in the 44th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was emissions.
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Senior Researcher, Canadian Labour Congress
We had a discussion among ourselves, but it wasn't a face-to-face consultation that I was involved in. The consultation was open for submissions, so we got together—
Conservative
Matt Jeneroux Conservative Edmonton Riverbend, AB
Okay. There's a lot of mystery around these consultations, so I'm trying to get to that.
Mr. Sawyer, did your organization participate?
Principal Economist, Canadian Climate Institute
I'm unaware if we participated. I did not.
President and Chief Executive Officer, Aluminium Association of Canada
I just want to make sure I understand the reference. Is it the consultation about the Canadian CBAM? I missed that part. I'm sorry.
President and Chief Executive Officer, Aluminium Association of Canada
We submitted a brief. We were consulted. We took part in the consultation, the reaching out, and we submitted a brief on behalf of the industry.
Conservative
Matt Jeneroux Conservative Edmonton Riverbend, AB
Have you seen any results from those consultations? Again, they happened in 2022.
President and Chief Executive Officer, Aluminium Association of Canada
My understanding, from what I recall of the consultation, is that it was an ongoing process.
Conservative
Matt Jeneroux Conservative Edmonton Riverbend, AB
I'm going to move on.
Yes or no, have you seen those results, ongoing or not?
President and Chief Executive Officer, Aluminium Association of Canada
I can't remember if I've seen anything because it was ongoing.
Conservative
Matt Jeneroux Conservative Edmonton Riverbend, AB
Just to help you out, Mr. Simard, that is the correct answer. There have been no results from the consultations, so if you see them, please let us know, because, again, this was from the government in 2020. We're almost in 2025, and this happened in 2022.
I'm going to allow my colleague to ask a quick question, but before I do, I want to ask you, Ms. Kwan, a brief question.
What are the potential repercussions for workers in the manufacturing and energy sectors if we're not aligned with the United States on trade policies?
Senior Researcher, Canadian Labour Congress
I think that any discussion about the United States right now is a bit up in the air given what we don't know. Any change in the industry would obviously disrupt jobs for sure. I would say it's hard to figure out what “align” even means right now.
Conservative
Matt Jeneroux Conservative Edmonton Riverbend, AB
Thank you.
For the last minute, I'll pass it to Tony.
Conservative
Tony Baldinelli Conservative Niagara Falls, ON
Thank you, Chair.
Thank you to the witnesses for being with us today.
I want to build on what my colleague from the NDP said earlier about the new, severe reality we're facing with the changes in the United States, the upcoming administration and the different approach.
Mr. Sawyer, you talked not so much about a CBAM but about the U.S. PROVE IT act. What is the status of that legislation? Has it passed? Is it in force?
Conservative
Tony Baldinelli Conservative Niagara Falls, ON
Has it been introduced, and is it beginning the legislative process?
December 11th, 2024 / 5:10 p.m.
Liberal
Chandra Arya Liberal Nepean, ON
Thank you, Madam Chair.
Mr. Sawyer, while introducing yourself, did you say that you're associated with an organization called EnviroMix?
