Yes, there's no doubt that Canadian-produced steel and aluminum are among the greenest in the world. They're on par with the United States. In some sectors, they're even greener than steel produced in the United States.
We are not opposed to a carbon tax or a price on carbon in the Canadian economy, but what we would like to see is some sort of adjustment at the border, whether that's a carbon tariff or a carbon border adjustment, to ensure that the price of goods—steel and aluminum, particularly, but also goods imported into the Canadian market—reflects the same costs that are imposed on Canadian-produced steel and aluminum. That will ensure a level playing field.
In terms of exporting steel and aluminum to the European Union, which I'm in the best position to speak to, we don't have large amounts of steel and aluminum being exported to the EU, as the previous witnesses testified to. However, the United Steelworkers recognizes that other manufacturers are going to be exposed to added costs with respect to the CBAM in the European Union, so there are additional advantages to implementing a similar program here.