That's a fantastic question.
As I mentioned, there are.... Palm oil production can be done sustainably. I think one of the main issues is how it's being produced, and how its production is dominated by a relatively small number of oligarchs in that region.
My organization has worked on the ground with a number of local communities that have invested much of their time and resources and have really put their heart and soul into producing sustainable palm oil. It can be done, but it goes back to these trade deals that need to create the enabling conditions for some of those local communities and small farmers to be rewarded for stepping up to the challenge that we're all facing in trying to produce these kinds of goods in a responsible manner.
One of our concerns, shared by Greenpeace Canada and Greenpeace Indonesia, is that this deal would potentially reward some of those multinational corporations that are currently benefiting from a very destructive model of palm oil production, which is not to the benefit of those who are producing it sustainably.