I'm not up on the particular subject matter of palm, but it is a big industry here. I would say that in the last, probably seven to eight years, perhaps a bit longer, the problems that Mr. Moffatt outlined have been widely recognized. Certainly a lot of the multilateral financing institutions, the domestic financing institutions, as well as the buyers, people like Unilever and that, have taken tremendous steps forward to ensure that some of those issues are addressed in terms of more sustainable harvesting, growing and processing of palm, and in fact, are tracing the source of their palm additives that go into their food products. Progress is being made.
I'd point out that, although there are a large number of big companies involved in this, they are very big employers of people in these countries and are raising their living standards. I would argue that greater engagement by Canada and other foreign countries that are the purchasers of these goods have consistently helped to improve the situation. There may be a little way to go just yet, but I think that having us at the table and working with Indonesian counterparts on these issues would only strengthen and improve the situation on the ground.