A number of instances have come up very recently in the backlash against ISDS. There have been concerns that COVID measures, for example, might trigger a new wave of disputes. There have been cases related to the introduction of new public services that end up competing with private services. For example, in Europe, completely legitimate decisions by government across a number of areas are getting challenged through ISDS. It can create a chill factor on governments that might be less inclined to introduce new public services down the road, for example. There are a number of areas.
I focused on climate and mining because it's top of mind. We obviously have to be reducing our emissions and countries will be doing that with greater speed, hopefully, in the coming years. If we can take out this cost and the uncertainty that ISDS creates, then all countries are better off—Canada, as well as Indonesia and ASEAN.