The report he's referring to was done by the World Bank and it was published in January and February. It had a timeline of what was going on in 2021. That's why I say that it's not exactly fair to judge the longer-term efficiency of those ports based on what happened in 2021, because they were going through the pandemic. The ranking has to do with the amount of time that ships are in harbour and how long containers, both loaded and empty, dwell sitting on the dock and how fast they're processing the vessels through the port.
When confronted with the situation they were in during the last part of the pandemic and the postpandemic period in 2021, it seems only reasonable that they would end up in that situation because they are the four or five ports that exist on the west coast of North America, and almost all of the traffic flowing into North America is going to flow through those two ports out of the Asia-Pacific countries. That's how they ended up in that situation.
As I said, it's a real statistic, a real measurement. I don't think it's fair to judge their efficiency based on that isolated period of time.