Yes, there is an issue. Truckers have had a long-standing issue trying to hire people in the industry. They have a big bubble that's starting to get to the age of retirement. They're in a challenging time.
On the other hand, what happened with railways—and one in particular—was that when the pandemic hit and the volumes decreased, and then again with the smaller crop last year, they laid off a lot of people. When you lay off people who are at the younger end of the spectrum, they will go out and find another job, and it's not as if you can call them back.
Both CN and CP have been working through the summer trying to increase their workforce. Of course, you can start the training, but it takes four to six months before you can get a person out on the ground. I was at CN's training facility just a couple of weeks ago and it is full. They have multiple classes running, trying to replace some of the people they need to fill those jobs, but they're challenged. It's no different from anybody else in the industry right now. It's very difficult to find people who will come to work.
After speaking to some of the transloaders on the west coast, I know they're having the same issue. They had to lay off a lot of people last year, but now that they're trying to get back into business, they're having a difficult time getting people to come to work. Of course, Vancouver is not a favourable economy to get blue-collar workers, who aren't making the kind of money that you need for living in Vancouver.
All of those things have an impact on trying to fill a lot of those labour positions in the industry.
I'm sure, Murad, you've probably had a similar situation in Saskatchewan.