Thank you, Madam Chair.
I would say the issue we face is potentially twofold.
One is that steamship lines, in their behaviour, as another person and I referenced, use cartel-like pricing. In terms of what jurisdictions the government would have in putting restrictions around that, it would be great if there were things that could be done.
The other part of this is that the supply chain system in Canada is broken, as Mark referenced. Potentially, that's where the government can also have a significant influence to improve the supply chain. With reference to other ports, other ports are not efficient. Part of the reason we get higher pricing than the U.S. is that these shipping lines get stuck when they come to a Canadian port. They have a much better transition of unloading and reloading their ships if they go to the U.S.
I looked at a price list yesterday. By the time the a container gets delivered to our door, coming through Vancouver, it is around $7,500. If we look at one in Seattle, which is not very far from Vancouver, coming from Shanghai—in both cases, they're coming from Shanghai—it is $2,015. How do you compare $2,015 with close to $7,000? That's because the steamship lines would prefer to go to the U.S. than to Canada. Part of it is volume and the other part of it is all the backlogs we have.
In terms of backlogs, I think we have lots of opportunity to improve those with—