First of all, yes, in terms of the trucking side of things, we do charge. We try to incentivize on-time performance. Truckers can pay for being late and terminals can pay for not getting the trucks through in a quick enough time to the terminal.
For example, right now I'm just looking at the turn times inside the terminals in Vancouver. Three of the terminals are turning at about 40 minutes, which is great. Deltaport actually looks like it's at about 18 minutes right now, which is a really quick turnaround. Things are moving really well on that side of things.
In terms of fees, basically demurrage works as was described by my colleagues. It really depends on the contracts you have in place, but you do pay for a container sitting around for too long. You pay that in different locations. You may pay that on a container terminal or at an off-dock facility. It really depends on the nature of the contract that you have set up. It typically does disadvantage the smaller mom-and-pop shops—the smaller businesses—because they don't have the market power to be able to negotiate contracts that are more beneficial with respect to that. It can be very expensive.
I can't speak to how long the dwell time is in off-docks right now.