I would have to come back to you with an exhaustive list of the groups with whom the Minister of International Trade has met in the United States. We do meet regularly at the ministerial and officials level with the NAHB and with other groups. We've also held meetings directly with representatives of the U.S. softwood lumber coalition in the past.
I think it is really important to understand, if you want to appreciate the dynamics around the negotiation of the deal, the role that the U.S. Lumber Coalition plays in all of this, because a long-term deal requires them to suspend the constitutional rights that they have to petition the U.S. government for a redress of unfair trade practices. If they are not prepared to suspend their constitutional right to petition the government, then there would not be much value in a long-term deal because it could be undone through a petition on behalf of the U.S. industry at any point in time. Their buy-in really is critical to putting anything in place for any lengthy period of time.