I think we've already talked about it. It's just taking a holistic approach to the transportation infrastructure, and that's one thing we've tried to do as an association. Every year, we bring together the rail community, the truck carrier community and the ports, and we try to have a collective discussion about how to make the system work better, because one challenge is that whenever you talk to just one party, they point the finger and say, “It's not us. It's the rails, or it's the ports that are the real problem.”
It harkens back to what Mr. Kingston relayed as well. We need to have a more holistic and comprehensive view of transportation infrastructure and the various components of it in our society.