I want to go back to the contract. It's 2024 and you indicate that you're still trying to determine and people are still trying to determine what the government owns and doesn't own.
I'm just looking at a copy of the contract. Under section 1.4, “Grant of Right of Use of the Solution”, it says:
The Contractor grants to Canada the right to access and use...the Solution, which includes:
(i) all rights for Internal Users to access and use the Solution for government purposes as defined in the SOW....
I could go on.
Section 1.7, “Ownership of Intellectual Property for Contractor-Furnished Software”, says, “Canada acknowledges that Intellectual Property ownership of the Contractor-Furnished Software incorporated into the CARM Phase 2 Solution belong to the Contractor or its licensor”.
My question is this. You've indicated we've spent to date about $430 million, and we're talking from 2014 to 2018. Should the government not have figured out by now what it owns and doesn't own in regard to CARM?