Evidence of meeting #42 for International Trade in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was vehicles.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Kingston  President and Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Vehicle Manufacturers' Association
Jo Noble  Vice-President, National Cattle Feeders' Association
Kennedy  Vice President, Asia-Pacific, Business Council of Canada
White  President and Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Canola Growers Association
Sweeney  President and Chief Executive Officer, Pacific Manufacturing Association of Canada

The Chair (Hon. Judy A. Sgro (Humber River—Black Creek, Lib.)) Liberal Judy Sgro

I call the meeting to order.

Welcome to meeting number 42 of the Standing Committee on International Trade.

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) and the motion adopted by the committee on Thursday, September 18, 2025, the committee is resuming its study of Canada and the forthcoming CUSMA review.

Before I start with the witnesses, I have two motions. One is by Mr. Chambers, and one is by Ms. Acan. I believe there has been discussion amongst the members on both of these motions.

In particular, on Mr. Chambers' motion—you're all aware of it—are there any suggested amendments or anything?

Mr. Naqvi, go ahead, please.

Yasir Naqvi Liberal Ottawa Centre, ON

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Mr. Chambers and I have been in discussions. I have a slight modification that I'm suggesting to his motion. It's that the very last sentence will now read, “That this committee report its findings to the House, and that, pursuant to Standing Order 109, the committee request that the government table a comprehensive response to the report.”

That's the only change. I believe Mr. Chambers is in agreement with that.

11:25 a.m.

Conservative

Adam Chambers Conservative Simcoe North, ON

There's another line you're striking.

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

I guess he's not.

Yasir Naqvi Liberal Ottawa Centre, ON

Well, we struck the line suggesting that this study take precedence over other studies.

Thank you, Mr. Chambers.

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Okay.

11:25 a.m.

Conservative

Adam Chambers Conservative Simcoe North, ON

I accept that as a friendly amendment.

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

All right.

Yasir Naqvi Liberal Ottawa Centre, ON

It's been sent to the clerk. The edited version should be in the clerk's inbox.

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Is everybody okay with this friendly amendment to Mr. Chambers' motion?

Some hon. members

Agreed.

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Ms. Lapointe.

Linda Lapointe Liberal Rivière-des-Mille-Îles, QC

Can we receive the amendment? You're speaking in English, and I'm not sure about the last sentence in French.

A voice

[Inaudible—Editor]

Linda Lapointe Liberal Rivière-des-Mille-Îles, QC

Okay. Thank you.

11:25 a.m.

Conservative

Adam Chambers Conservative Simcoe North, ON

It has not been translated.

Linda Lapointe Liberal Rivière-des-Mille-Îles, QC

Okay, but if it's possible.... I'm not sure about the amendment, so that's why....

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Yes, the amendment is just so it is in keeping with the proper language that we normally have with these motions.

(Motion as amended agreed to)

On Ms. Acan's motion, is there any comment?

I realize that you haven't had a week to look at these. We've all received them.

Given Madame Lapointe's concern, I'm going to hold this until 12 o'clock. At 12 o'clock, when we finish with this panel of witnesses, who already have been waiting a long time, I will ask if everybody is in agreement, and we will adopt it at that time.

Linda Lapointe Liberal Rivière-des-Mille-Îles, QC

I appreciate it. Thank you.

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

We make sure that we keep everybody happy here.

We have with us today friends who have been here before: Mr. Kingston, president and chief executive officer, Canadian Vehicle Manufacturers' Association; and Cathy Jo Noble, vice-president, National Cattle Feeders' Association.

Welcome to you both. I apologize for the tardiness, but it's that time of the year.

You know the rules for interpretation, so I'm going to go right to Mr. Kingston.

I invite you to speak to us for up to five minutes, please.

Brian Kingston President and Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Vehicle Manufacturers' Association

Thank you.

Madam Chair and committee members, thank you for the invitation to be here today as part of your study of the CUSMA review.

The Canadian Vehicle Manufacturers’ Association, CVMA, is the association that represents Canada’s leading manufacturers of light and heavy-duty motor vehicles. Our membership includes Ford, General Motors and Stellantis.

CVMA members have been operating in Canada for over 100 years. In fact, we just celebrated our 100-year anniversary in 2026. They are responsible for most of the auto production in this country, having built over 100 million vehicles since 1945. Today, they are the largest employers, investors and innovators in the auto manufacturing sector.

With over 90% of Canadian production destined for the U.S., U.S. market access and North American integration are the foundation of the auto industry. Diversification is not an option for automotive, as markets in Europe and Asia are better served by assembly plants in those regions. Canada’s market alone is too small to justify large-scale manufacturing.

Simply put, there is no Canadian auto industry without the U.S. The future of the industry, and the hundreds of thousands of jobs that it supports, requires securing our trade relationship.

U.S. section 232 tariffs on the automotive industry and Canada’s retaliatory measures are doing enormous damage to the integrated North American auto supply chain. The total tariff bill is projected to reach $188 billion U.S. on auto manufacturers by the end of next year. As it stands today, it is more cost-effective to build a vehicle in Japan or Germany and export it to the U.S. than it is to build a vehicle in North America for the U.S. market.

Given our integration with the United States, the situation facing Canada is particularly acute. Tariffs levied on Canadian vehicles reached $5 billion in 2025. This is eroding the competitiveness of our domestic production and making it an increasingly difficult environment for investment.

As we prepare for the CUSMA review, we're recommending the following actions, which we think will position Canada for success.

Number one is to eliminate the Canada-China strategic partnership. This agreement negotiated with China allows 49,000 EVs into Canada. That's 30% of the number of EVs sold last year. That is not an insignificant amount. That undermines our sector right now. It puts the North American auto supply chain at risk. China does not adhere to the rules-based trade and investment principles that have been really fundamental to the success of the auto industry and the Canadian economy more broadly.

Importantly, there are no guardrails in this agreement to ensure a level playing field for manufacturers that have invested in Canada or to protect Canadians from cyber risks. In addition to having a surtax on Chinese EVs, we've been urging the federal government to proceed with the proposed ban on certain Chinese-connected vehicle software that's aligned to the U.S. This will protect Canadian drivers from foreign actors manipulating these technologies to access sensitive or personal information. It will also position us for success in our discussions with the Americans.

Number two is to reduce regulatory complexity. In the face of trade disruptions and U.S. tariffs, we have to do everything possible right now to strengthen the conditions for automotive investment by focusing on what we can control. This means getting rid of, reducing, the regulatory burden facing companies by lowering the cost of investing in plants, machinery, and R and D here in Canada.

I have a couple of examples for you.

The federal EV sales mandate does remain in place to this day, four months after it was announced that it would be repealed. We've been recommending that it be repealed immediately, because it puts costs on manufacturers.

While urgency is required in removing the EV mandate, the opposite holds true for developing Canada’s sovereign GHG regulations—also known as tailpipe regulations. The federal government is currently rushing forward with the development of Canada-unique regulations. We are totally integrated with the U.S. Taking a Canada-unique approach here can be extremely risky for our automotive industry. We're asking the government to take the time and do this properly.

I will close on a note of optimism. I believe there is a deal to be had. We have to get to the table. The Americans are focused on deficits. If that is the lens that they're using, Canada's the only country in the world that is well positioned in that discussion. The Americans have run an average $2.7 billion U.S. auto trade surplus with Canada since the USMCA was put into force. We're the only country in the world the Americans run a surplus with.

There is a deal to be had here. We are not part of the problem. In fact, we are part of the solution for the Americans. We have to get to the table. We can get a deal done, but this has to happen immediately.

Thank you.

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Thank you very much, Mr. Kingston.

Ms. Noble, go ahead, please. You have up to five minutes.

Cathy Jo Noble Vice-President, National Cattle Feeders' Association

Great. Thank you.

Thank you for inviting the National Cattle Feeders' Association to appear before your committee today. Thank you as well for the number of agriculture witnesses you've already called before you, because CUSMA is a priority for our sector.

NCFA is the voice of cattle feeders—beef farmers who bring calves onto their feedlots and modify their diets from grass to a high-energy feed to propel weight gain and create the high-quality marbled beef products that we enjoy in Canada and around the world. Feedlots can vary in size, but they're still family operations that often involve multiple family members and generations. They are the fabric of rural Canada and the linchpin in the Canadian beef sector.

Our industry is export-dependent. Each year Canada exports approximately 50% of our live cattle and beef. Of that, 75% goes to the U.S. and 5% goes to Mexico. The Canada and U.S. beef industries are deeply integrated markets, with a live animal crossing the border often more than once—for example, born in the U.S., brought up to a Canadian feedlot to be fed, and then sent back down to the U.S. to be processed. That integration also includes imports and veterinary drugs. The integration of the market has been greatly facilitated by CUSMA and the trade agreements that preceded it.

We support market diversification for beef, but my members are operating with live animals, animals that have limits to the lengths they can be transported, thus amplifying the Canada-U.S. integrated market. Despite our frustrations with our relationship with the U.S. at this time, our most important trading partner is the U.S., and a highly functioning and unobstructed border is an absolute must for the success of the Canadian beef industry.

We acknowledge the work of the government on the CUSMA renewal, and the sector has also been doing its homework. We have been in close communication with our own government, and last week the NCFA signed a letter, along with 160 other associations from Mexico, the U.S. and Canada, to Minister LeBlanc and his U.S. and Mexico counterparts, calling for the renewal of CUSMA. In addition, last week I spent the week in Washington with the Canadian Agri-Food Trade Alliance, meeting with U.S. decision-makers, delivering our message and garnering insight on where their mindset is. We delivered a message on the economic benefit of CUSMA for the agriculture sector on both sides, but also on the benefit for consumers and food affordability on both sides, as well as food security and availability throughout the year.

I will close my comments by noting that securing a positive CUSMA renewal is complicated when parallel deals with other regions are being made. In particular, Mercosur is a deal that will send a wrong message to the U.S. and the CUSMA process, because when prices become depressed in Canada, it impacts the entire North American market.

Thank you.

The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro

Thank you very much.

We'll open the floor for questions.

Mr. Mantle, you have six minutes, please.

11:35 a.m.

Conservative

Jacob Mantle Conservative York—Durham, ON

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you to our witnesses for appearing and for providing valuable testimony to the committee.

Mr. Kingston, my questions will be directed primarily to you. Thank you for your opening statement. Your view, as I understand it, is that without access to the U.S. market, there is no auto industry in Canada. Is that correct?