I absolutely take your point. I support the availability of MAID for end-of-life patients, and I certainly agree that I don't think the minority of patients who want MAID and go ahead with it are doing so because of a lack of access to palliative care.
I think the question was asked in the last panel about what proportion of patients who receive MAID have accessed palliative care. The last federal report tells us that: 82% of people who have received MAID have also been in receipt of palliative care. Also, the criticism of that was that it was clinician-reported. At UHN, my hospital, we have looked at actual receipt of palliative care services, and it's closer to 100% of our oncology population who accessed and received MAID and have also received good palliative care.