Yes, absolutely.
The national palliative care organizations, including the colleges that are responsible for setting the competencies for the certified training programs, including a two-year Royal College program in palliative medicine and a one-year College of Family Physicians program, are much different from the continuing medical education modules we're talking about for MAID. Those certification programs and the national bodies for palliative care and the international organizations recognize that palliative care does not hasten death at all. It accompanies people through suffering and helps them live well until they die.
The difficulty we are experiencing in palliative care is that MAID has been forced into that care by health authorities and non-palliative experts who've said that you have to provide it in your hospices and your palliative care units, and that is forcing us to be involved. That's also a bit of a misrepresentation, I think, that Health Canada reported. They're not completely separate because they've been forced to go together by external authorities who are not experts in palliative care.