Evidence of meeting #3 for Medical Assistance in Dying in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was maid.

A video is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Joint Chair  Hon. Yonah Martin (British Columbia, C)
Félix Pageau  Geriatrician, Ethicist and Researcher, Université Laval, As an Individual
Stefanie Green  President, MAID Practitioner, Advisor to BC Ministry of Health, Canadian Association of MAiD Assessors and Providers
Tim Guest  Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Nurses Association
Marie-Francoise Mégie  senator, Québec (Rougement), ISG
Stanley Kutcher  Senator, Nova Scotia, ISG
Pierre Dalphond  Senator, Quebec (De Lormier), PSG
Pamela Wallin  Senator, Saskatchewan, CSG
Leonie Herx  Chair and Associate Professor, Palliative Medicine, Queen’s University and Chair, Royal College Specialty Committee in Palliative Medicine, As an Individual
Alain Naud  Family and Palliative Care Physician, As an Individual
Audrey Baylis  Retired Registered Nurse, As an Individual
Diane Reva Gwartz  Nurse Practitioner, Primary Health Care, As an Individual
K. Sonu Gaind  Professor, As an Individual
Marlisa Tiedemann  Committee Researcher

10:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Joint Chair Liberal Marc Garneau

Thank you, Senator Wallin.

Go ahead, Ms. Fry.

10:30 p.m.

Liberal

Hedy Fry Liberal Vancouver Centre, BC

Thank you.

This is a mutual admiration society. I agree with Senator Wallin, because whatever information we get about palliative care from our data gathering we're going to have to discuss anyway, whereas as we move on to different aspects of this study, we might find that we want more information on certain things.

If we can start off, do all the pieces, look for the information and have it coming back to us so we can discuss it, that would make far more sense to me than having people tell us about palliative care at the next meeting and finding out that they still haven't answered our issues and our questions. It just doesn't make logical sense to me for us to do it this way. I think we should get the information we need first and then go back to palliative care.

10:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Joint Chair Liberal Marc Garneau

Thank you, Ms. Fry.

Do I see anybody else?

Senator Mégie, you have the floor.

10:35 p.m.

Marie-Françoise Mégie

Mr. Chair, is it possible to have a show of hands to determine whether we are going to devote one or two meetings to palliative care?

10:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Joint Chair Liberal Marc Garneau

It's possible.

Let me just frame one thing here. We're trying to move forward and use our time as productively as possible. As a work plan, we have to be ready to adjust as we go along, but we need to move forward on this and use our time as wisely as possible.

Senator Mégie has suggested that we should take a vote on whether next Monday we move on to another topic or whether we devote the second meeting to palliative care. I'm going to ask for a show of hands for those who are here. Those who would like to do palliative care this Thursday but move on to something next week, please show your hands.

That looks like a majority. That was very clearly to do just palliative care this Thursday and move on to what would be advance requests or directives starting next Monday.

As a committee, you can choose to come back to something later on, but for our purposes now, I think a majority want to do palliative care this Thursday and advance directives next Monday.

Is there anything else?

Thank you.

This meeting is adjourned.