Yes, absolutely.
Again, congratulations on the framework. As Dr. Buchman was saying, the fact is that we don't have the services available for patients and their families. I don't think we can take any comfort in the fact that 15% to 30% of people have access to these resources. It's shameful that we just don't have better care available.
In preparation for today's presentation, I spoke to the head of our medical palliative care program, and, for your information, Winnipeg—a city of about a million people—has not seen an increase for palliative care funding in the last 20 years. We have 16 hospice beds, all located within the perimeter highway—