No, I have not met with them.
Again, these are not my concerns only. These are the concerns of several physicians who are engaged in developing those guidelines. Guidelines are different from standards. I just want to clarify that point as well. The standards document itself, the one developed by the expert panel, states that these are not clinical guidelines, and this is what is missing to ensure quality. That's CAMH's position that we're describing as to why we're not ready.