Very good.
Evidence of meeting #60 for National Defence in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Evidence of meeting #60 for National Defence in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.
A recording is available from Parliament.
9:35 a.m.
Conservative
9:35 a.m.
Liberal
John McCallum Liberal Markham—Unionville, ON
I said earlier that balance is good. I think all Liberals think balance is good.
My colleague tells me the other side has already been heard. I haven't participated in the committee meetings, but if the other side has been heard in large numbers, it doesn't strike me as unbalanced to have time for another group.
9:35 a.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Rick Casson
Okay.
The subamendment, as I understand it, would insert “in two separate panels” after “and others” and “of three hours” after “one meeting”. So we're going to insert “in two separate panels”—
9:35 a.m.
Conservative
9:35 a.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Rick Casson
Two separate panels of equal size. That's right. You did mention that. I apologize.
So we're suggesting “two separate panels of equal size in a three-hour meeting”.
9:35 a.m.
Liberal
9:35 a.m.
NDP
Dawn Black NDP New Westminster—Coquitlam, BC
I have a question. If you can't find an equal size to come on the same day, what happens?
9:35 a.m.
Liberal
Denis Coderre Liberal Bourassa, QC
That's a question I would like to ask. And second, who do you have in mind? Give me names. Do you want Lockheed Martin again?
Oh, okay. Of course. You're the new spokesperson.
9:35 a.m.
Conservative
Laurie Hawn Conservative Edmonton Centre, AB
I don't know if he's the right spokesperson, but he's at least an expert. I would suggest that he's much more expert than Michel Drapeau.
9:35 a.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Rick Casson
If this motion does pass, then we will have to have input from all parties as to who the witnesses should be. The steering committee will have to meet again to decide when this will happen and in what order.
9:35 a.m.
NDP
Dawn Black NDP New Westminster—Coquitlam, BC
You're very specific in this motion. What if you can't get exactly the same numbers to come on exactly the same date? Does that mean we don't meet?
9:35 a.m.
An hon. member
Yes.
9:35 a.m.
Conservative
Russ Hiebert Conservative South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC
Mr. Chair, we've certainly had the situation in the past where there have been numerous panels addressing this committee at the same time. It hasn't been a difficulty. I don't see why it would be a difficulty in the future.
9:40 a.m.
NDP
Dawn Black NDP New Westminster—Coquitlam, BC
That's not an answer to my question. If you can't get exactly the same numbers, what do you do?
9:40 a.m.
Conservative
Russ Hiebert Conservative South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC
I think that's a hypothetical situation that we can address if it arises.
9:40 a.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Rick Casson
I agree that it does say “of equal size”, and we will endeavour to make that happen.
9:40 a.m.
Liberal
Anthony Rota Liberal Nipissing—Timiskaming, ON
Excuse me, Mr. Chair, could we get to the vote? It sounds like we're going in circles here.
9:40 a.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Rick Casson
Yes. We're going to the vote right now.
Okay. So the subamendment is “in two separate panels of equal size”, and then “of three hours in one meeting”. That's the gist of the subamendment.
I'm going to call the question.
(Subamendment negatived)
9:40 a.m.
Conservative
Russ Hiebert Conservative South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC
Is this a recorded vote, Mr. Chair?