Evidence of meeting #14 for National Defence in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was camera.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Samy Agha

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rick Casson

Order, please.

The clerk has the wording of the motion that Mr. Hawn is proposing. I'd like him to read it for us.

4:50 p.m.

NDP

Dawn Black NDP New Westminster—Coquitlam, BC

Mr. Chairman, wouldn't my motion be first? It's waiting on the books.

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rick Casson

Does it matter what--

4:50 p.m.

NDP

Dawn Black NDP New Westminster—Coquitlam, BC

It does to me, yes. It's been hanging around for a few weeks now.

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rick Casson

Okay, Ms. Black, we will do that.

4:50 p.m.

NDP

Dawn Black NDP New Westminster—Coquitlam, BC

Thank you.

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rick Casson

The floor is yours, Ms. Black.

4:50 p.m.

NDP

Dawn Black NDP New Westminster—Coquitlam, BC

Claude has an amendment.

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rick Casson

Mr. Bachand.

4:50 p.m.

Bloc

Claude Bachand Bloc Saint-Jean, QC

I do not want to quibble, Mr. Chair, but my amendment updates the motion so that it makes sense. Ms. Black's motion says that the witnesses are going to appear today, February 28. That is impossible. It makes more sense if we put “as soon as possible” instead of “at the regularly scheduled meeting to be held on February 28, 2008”.

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rick Casson

Just for clarification, the amendment by Mr. Bachand to the motion by Ms. Black is to strike the words “to be held on February 28th, 2008” and replace them with “as soon as possible”.

(Amendment agreed to)

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rick Casson

The amended motion is that as part of the committee’s study of health services provided to Canadian Forces personnel with an emphasis on post-traumatic stress disorder, the committee invite Ms. Cindy Smith-MacDonald and Ann le Clair to appear before the Standing Committee on National Defence at a regularly scheduled meeting as soon as possible.

Is there any discussion?

All those in favour? Four in favour, four opposed.... Oh, don't do this. Are the rest of you going to vote or is that it? Are you abstaining?

4:50 p.m.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rick Casson

Let's do that one more time, please. All those in favour, please signify....

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Denis Coderre Liberal Bourassa, QC

I have a question first, Mr. Chair. Just for clarification, does that mean your two names will be the two of the other motion?

4:50 p.m.

NDP

Dawn Black NDP New Westminster—Coquitlam, BC

Yes.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

Denis Coderre Liberal Bourassa, QC

Okay.

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rick Casson

All those in favour? And this is the last time I'm asking.

(Motion as amended agreed to: yeas 6; nays 4)

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rick Casson

Samy, would you read the other motion.

4:50 p.m.

The Clerk of the Committee Mr. Samy Agha

The motion is that during two in camera meetings, the committee receive testimony from individual soldiers and families regarding its study of Canadian Forces health services, with an emphasis on PTSD, and that committee members propose a maximum of 16 names--eight individual soldiers and eight family members--to the clerk.

4:55 p.m.

NDP

Dawn Black NDP New Westminster—Coquitlam, BC

I don't think we'll get that many folks here.

4:55 p.m.

Bloc

Claude Bachand Bloc Saint-Jean, QC

Could we have that in French now, please?

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rick Casson

Was it not interpreted?

4:55 p.m.

Bloc

Claude Bachand Bloc Saint-Jean, QC

It was, but the written form is in English. Can we have it in French?

4:55 p.m.

The Clerk

Sure. I can translate it off the top of my head, if that's okay; I hope I don't make any mistakes.