That's one of the biggest challenges we face right now, to get those right so that they're meaningful, they're ambitious, and they stretch us in terms of what we're trying to achieve, but that they're also realistic.
Minister Emerson spoke the other night at the technical briefing about having a realistic estimate of what Kandahar in, say, 2011 is going to look like.
I first visited Afghanistan in 1976, well before I joined government. That was just at the end of that kind of golden period when Afghanistan was at peace. It was a peaceful country; I was able to drive from Kabul to Kandahar to Herat. But there were still lots of parts of Afghanistan that weren't safe to go to. Corruption, I think, was still a problem. There were still a lot of the issues that you find in any developing country.
I think that's something we need to get our minds around: for a long, long time, Afghanistan will be a developing country and will have some of the problems associated with it.
We're aiming to move Afghanistan to a state in its transition where Afghans, while the country may still have some of those same problems, are capable of managing it themselves. They're increasingly capable of providing their own security; they're increasingly capable of dealing with issues of corruption, which will probably continue, but they'll have the means of dealing with it that they don't have now.
So it's really about moving Afghanistan along a continuum. The end state of developed status, if we look at any of the countries in the developing world, can be a long time coming, but there comes a time when the government itself has the ability to meet some of those challenges.